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Which Chassis and Why

Being a shop that sells R/C Drift exclusively, we get a lot people asking which chassis would be the best for them. Since most of this happens in store, we have the opportunity to break it down for them while taking a few factors into account. It’s a little more difficult when we see this same question posted online due to many factors. There is a lot of great advice out there, and there is a lot of bad advice as well. It’s up to you to decide which is credible and which is not. In fact, you should be asking yourself if I am even credible.

We encounter a few different types of buyers and each come with their own unique needs. What we first tell them is, they really need to be honest with themselves. The decision they make on their first setup can greatly affect the amount they spend in the long run. I believe right from the start, the first thing that should be looked at is what type of person are you? Are you the type that is content with just good enough, or are you the type to want all the good stuff? I fall into the later and ultimately could have saved quite a bit if I made the right choice at the start. If you are the type that will have everything upgraded in the next month or two, you should consider the kits that include some hop-ups already. You will save roughly 30% off your upgrade journey.

Although choosing the right chassis seems like a life decision, keep in mind most people seem to change chassis about once a year. Some keep them longer, some have multiple chassis throughout the year, but on average it seems to cycle around the 1 year mark.

If you are new to R/C Drift, (notice I worded it R/C Drift, NOT just R/C) Most likely even your past R/C knowledge will not be enough to get you where you want to be right away. R/C Drift is a different animal than any other discipline of R/C, so it’s not easy to just start out and be the superstar of the track. The main point I always stress is:

Find out what people are running where you plan to spend most of your time drifting, and go that route. There will be a ton of help and you will spend more time drifting, and less time being frustrated. You Will Need Help.

There is plenty of time to be unique later with the ultra rare chassis, but when you are first starting out, it will benefit you to be able to share tips and setups.

When choosing your first R/C Drift chassis, you will hear a ton of advice. Some good and some really bad. Some of the common, bad ones we often come across are:

1. Any chassis can be good. Yes and No.
YES – If you REALLY know what you are doing, AND you are ok throwing a bunch of money at it.
NO – If both of those statements don’t apply to you. If you’re just starting out, this is a huge NO!

We have seen many people make their initial investment in a difficult chassis, struggle alone since there is nobody familiar with their chassis or how to set it up, and finally just disappear and blow out their full setup on Craigslist.

2. The clones are just as good, just cost less.
NO – We have yet to see a good performing clone, Period.

Just don’t. Maybe later down the line when you are well versed in turning and you know exactly what you are after, then try to tackle a project like this, but for now, focus on a good, solid foundation.

Ready To Run (RTR)
Aimed toward the person who needs an entire setup. They don’t own a remote, electronics, etc. They are also trying to start out on a budget of sub $500.

The only RTR we can recommend at this time is the MST RMX 2.0 RTR.

Things to consider:
This is intended to get you going in R/C Drift. The chassis itself is the same as the regular RMX 2.0, with only a couple small differences that can be changed to be the same for a $50-$100.

It comes pre-built and tested from the factory. This means you don’t need to worry about all the small details of setting it up correctly. you just pull it out of the box and you are good to go. The tires even have a little wear on them from the test run at MST.

It comes pre-built, so you didn’t build it yourself. This means when something goes wrong (and it will), you will need to learn how to fix it. If you built it yourself, you would already be familiar with how the car works and goes together.

The RTR electronics are meant to just get you going. There are a lot of electronics out there that are better quality and more pricy. There is a reason why people are willing the drop the extra cash on them. The electronics included will get you up and going, but you will be upgrading soon. This is a key point.

Reality:
You are not really saving money, you are just able to get started for a lower initial investment. It is the cheapest way to get into the hobby.

Base Kits:
Yokomo YD-2E and YD-2S
MST RMX 2.0s
These chassis kits come in “kit” form. This means you build it yourself. We always recommend this route since knowing how it all goes together is invaluable. You will need to fix it on occasion, so either you become an expert from the start, or you struggle every time something goes wrong. All 3 are mainly plastic and are considered Entry Level. All 3 drive excellent out of the box and all 3 can be fully upgraded. Also note, these are all very capable chassis out of the box. That’s not to say the upgrades aren’t needed or don’t make a difference, because they do. It simply means in the right hands, there is no reason you wouldn’t see these very chassis on the podium at your local comp.

Yokomo YD-2E and YD-2S:
Yokomo is the larger of the 2 companies and as of recent, have really been pushing the development of their YD-2 line. They have been steadily releasing new upgrades. Some feel it’s too often, some like the innovation. The YD-2 line also has a lot of 3rd party support, but keep in mind, not all the 3rd party products are good or even tested. We have seen a lot of “upgrades” actually hurt performance. So buyer beware. If you like constantly changing and upgrading parts, Yokomo is really the clear choice of the two companies I am discussing.

YD-2E:
Based on the original YD-2 design, it has a Low Center of Gravity (LCG) setup, with a standard gearbox and a low mounted motor. It was intended for standard to high-traction conditions.


YD-2S:
It has introduced a tub style chassis and lay-down gearbox. The lay-down gearbox mounts the motor high, High Center of Gravity (HCG) giving it more “Weight Shift” and theoretically more traction for standard to low-traction conditions.

MST (Max Speed Technology) RMX 2.0s:
MST has been a player for a long time and has always put out high quality products. There is not a lot of 3rd party support, but MST always brings upgrades that work really well. They designed the chassis, they design the upgrades, it’s a winning combination. Their upgrades are some of the nicest I’ve seen, but typically come with a price tag to match. If you like upgrading once and sticking with it, MST is the way to go. They typically will release a couple versions of . upgrades, and then they move on. You can count on their upgrades making a difference and also being top quality.

RMX 2.0s:
In my opinion the RMX 2.0s was MST’s answer to Yokomo’s YD-2. The YD-2 S appears to be Yokomo’s answer to the RMX 2.0s. The RMX 2.0s comes with a bevel gear gearbox giving it a more compact design. It also allows you to chose between mounting the motor high or low, giving you a High Center of Gravity (HCG) and a Low Center of Gravity (LCG) setup in one chassis. It’s nice to be able to experiment and find what fits your driving style without having to commit to an entirely different chassis.

Conclusion:
This is based on the many customers who come through our doors here at Super-G. We have worked with many people who have gone about this in so many different ways. We would just like to save you guys the frustration if possible.

For someone just getting into the hobby, the Yokomo YD-2 line and the MST RMX 2.0s are the leading choices. These are the most popular Rear Wheel Drive chassis with the most support and knowledge at the moment. I own both and can recommend them both very highly.

If you stick to these 3 or the upgraded versions, you will be on your way with a solid chassis. What you do from there is up to you, but you can feel confident it’s not your chassis holding you back.
GOOD LUCK!
KEEP DRIFT FUN!

CHECK THEM ALL OUT HERE:
MST RMX 2.0 RTR
MST RMX 2.0 RTR (Bodyless)
MST RMX 2.0s (LCG/HCG)
Yokomo YD-2S (HCG)
Yokomo YD-2E (LCG)
The Full Line Up

7/20/18 – Noodles and Tacos with Sonecchi!

Noodles and Tacos Event!

Friday, July 20, 2018.
Since this weekend was the last chance Takayuki Sone would be able to visit us before going back to Japan, he wanted to have a gathering and hang out with some good food. He said he wanted to share one of his favorite Japanese summer dishes with the guys, so of course we were all for it!

Although he’s traveling, he showed up prepared to get busy with the cooking. Somen was on the menu for the night. For those who are not familiar with somen, it’s a Japanese noodle dish which is eaten cold. It really is delicious and refreshing on a hot night like it was Friday.

Sonecchi was saying he wanted to share some of his culture with the Super-G guys.

He was surprised everyone was able to use chopsticks so well. I think he expected to see some of the group struggle, so we were prepared with forks, but we are in Los Angeles, so we are exposed to all sorts of different cultures. Chopsticks aren’t all that foreign to the locals.

Speaking of locals, back by popular demand, some chicken Super-Tacos!

As the night progressed, it became increasingly more crowded. We ended up running out of pit space. Joe and I became a little overwhelmed, so unfortunately there is a little lapse in our coverage.

Good, clean tandems seemed to be the theme of the night! There was a lot of clean runs going on the entire time!

The main thing was everyone having a good time, some good food, and some good drifts. It was definitely a fun event! We can’t wait for the next visit!

Thanks for sharing some really good food with us Takayuki Sone! Safe travels!

Never Mind the Tuning! It’s all Chassis.

This past week has been an interesting one.
I suppose there have been a lot of opinions brewing and it took a single post to ignite strong emotions in some people. I must admit I needed to walk away for a moment, then try to find some sort of humor in the post, but the fact remains, there were more than a few people who were bothered.  The DMs have prompted this post.


MST RMX 2.0s

I have been thinking about how to approach this, and I have decided the best way is to address this head on. This past week someone posted in the Super-G Group and called the Yokomo YD-2 SX a Cheater Car / Chassis and went on to defend the statement by saying it holds more speed and angle EASIER than the others. Basically implying there is some sort of unfair advantage attached to this particular chassis. I am choosing to believe it was meant as a joke, but somehow people got caught up. I have to admit it rubbed me the wrong way. It was further fueled by trying to defend the statement and in turn calling the RMX 2.0s a “good beginner car”. I personally do not agree with this statement in the least. In fact, it was a bit of a bummer reading that. I believe the RMX 2.0s is a great chassis and very capable for even the most experienced drivers.


Yokomo YD-2S

Tuning and Setup:
Most of us know tuning and setup are the key to success in R/C. R/C Drift is no different.  Of course there are limitations to the different chassis setups, but ultimately R/C is about customization. We have seen many Frankenstein chassis (parts from different chassis combined into one) perform really well. It just depends how far you want to go with it, and your knowledge of what each part will do to/for the setup. One of our former RawFew teammates, Tyler Watt was the Frankenstein Master in my opinion. His cars always drove amazing, regardless of what chassis he started with. Sprint 2, D3, you name it. A prime example of someone with a firm grasp on tuning. All my cars are in some way a Frankenstein build since I usually experiment with a few different brand components. This is part of my tuning style and I’m sure many of you out there do the same.

Let’s see what the numbers tell us:
We have been running competitions almost every Saturday night for the past 3 months. We get a wide range of competitors with different tuning styles and chassis setups.  Below are the stats grouped by chassis.

First Place Finishes:
4 – MST RMX 2.0s
3 – Yokomo YD-2S
1 – WrapUp Next VX Concept
1 – Yokomo YD-2

The most popular chassis we are seeing here at Super-G at the moment and their Podium Finishes (3rd or better):
13 – Yokomo YD-2S  
6 – MST RMX 2.0s
2 – WrapUp Next VX Concept
2 – MRD WrapUp Next Conversion
2 – Yokomo YD-2
MST FXX-D
Usukani PDS

To keep things in perspective, The majority are running YD-2S, so it’s to be expected to see more on the podium. A typical line up for any given night:
8 – Yokomo YD-2S
4 – MST RMX 2.0s
3 – Yokomo YD-2
2 – Usukani PDS
1 – WrapUp Next VX Concept
1 – WrapUp Next MRD Conversion
1 – MST FXX-D


Last Week’s Podium:
1st Place – RMX 2.0s (Kris). 2nd Place – YD-2S (Mikko). 3rd Place – WrapUp Next MRD (John). 4th Place – YD-2S (Shaine). (I had to use this pic cause it’s too good!)

So what am I getting at:
Because of this past week, it prompted me to take a look at the numbers to see if there was truly a pattern and if the “Cheater Car” statement was valid in the slightest. I have to say my original thoughts are correct and the numbers back it up.

There are many capable chassis out there, and in the right hands they can prove to be a deadly weapon in competition, but there is no guaranteed winner and no easy road to first place. I still hold firmly on my belief that a properly tuned chassis in the right hands can be a winner. A chassis which comes with a great setup sheet out of the box will perform better than a chassis with a poor setup sheet out of the box for it’s initial run. This is hardly an indication of which chassis is superior. It may or may not be a better starting point for the experienced tuner, but for the beginner a good initial setup is definitely a less painful path to take.

The original poster has made the mistake of comparing tunes on different chassis, and believing it’s the chassis making the difference rather than the tune. I really wish they would have started from the setup that came with their new chassis, rather than to discount the countless hours of research, trial, and error that went into the setup sheet they were given. If they had gone that route, maybe they would appreciate a solid setup and realize it’s really not that easy and a good driving chassis isn’t always just handed to you by the manufacturer.

Ok guys, BACK TO THE FUN!!!
Forgive and forget?

YD2 SERIES COMPARISON: YD2-E (LCG) vs YD2-S (VRM)

Yokomo’s YD-2 series features a YD-2 E series equipped with a standard low-mount motorized 4-gear transmission on a double deck chassis, and a YD-2 S high-mount motorized aimed at a lower grip road surface Together with the series, we have launched 3 grade machines for each series, and now a total of six models have been released. Of course, although it is a lineup that meets the needs of each user, the driving style and road surface condition, here we compare the 2 series thoroughly!

E series basic outline

Originally it is a lineup of two models of the original YD – 2 and YD – 2 PLUS. By installing a 4 – gear transmission referring to a 2 WD off – road car in a general double deck chassis with a touring car etc., it increases the rear traction While preventing the collapse of the left-right balance, I got the title of the strongest RWD drift car with overwhelming performance. YD-2 EX with a number of optional parts mounted in a newly designed narrow graphite chassis appeared, but he recorded a good result in competitions all over the world and quickly raised its name as the top competition machine of RWD drift It was. And recently, the conventional YD – 2 and YD – 2 PLUS also renewed based on EX ‘s chassis composition and running data, reviewed the alignment of the front tread and rear suspension, adapt to the latest drift scene, E series of YD – 2 E, YD – 2 E PLUS, YD – 2 EX was completed with the symbolic letter “E” attached.

S series basic overview

Although it was RWD drift style swollen at a stroke with the release of the original YD – 2, as the setting suited to the situation was progressing at various circuits on the other hand, it seemed that it was somewhat difficult to be difficult on the low grip road due to the good response of the machine. So Yokomo’s team started a big task of reviewing the balance of the machine. In the setting, we redesigned the part which can not be covered from the basic construction of the machine, also correspond to the low grip road surface, finally the combination of the single deck chassis and the high mount motor S series was born. YD-2 S equipped with reasonable and easy-to-handle resin chassis, YD-2 S PLUS fitted with carbon chassis and aluminum shocks, and high-end models YD-2 SX using plenty of aluminum and graphite parts Line up was done.

E vs S Weight balance by motor position

Common to both series is that it is a 4 gear transmission in which the counter torque when the motor accelerates (the force that the rotor trying to rotate attempts to rotate the motor case to the opposite side) pushes the rear tire. When decelerating, traction is apt to be applied to the front, rear traction is easily applied when accelerating, it is also a big feature of the YD – 2 series which is easy to match the driving feeling with the driving situation.

The mission case of the YD – 2 E series has four gears placed on the motor, and by mounting the motor which is also a heavy object as much as possible at the rear as much as possible, the rear traction is further raised and the high motion performance is acquired with a low center of gravity design . It responds swiftly to changes in subtle drift angle during cornering, and quick and dynamic turnover is a big weapon in the competition.

In case of RC drift using a sliding tire, it is theory to aggressively roll the machine on a low grip road surface to obtain grip, but when trying to realize it with a machine with low center of gravity, roll (lateral direction) and Sometimes the balance in the pitching (forward and backward) direction gets worse, and it was the S series high mount motor that fundamentally solved it. By raising the center of gravity position, it is easy to obtain traction on a low grip road surface, matching with the movement of pitching also widened the road surface correspondence width greatly. However, simply moving the motor to the mission case just blindly will result in a lowered exercise performance, so Yokomo intends to develop a new mission case dedicated to high mount motors and acquire the best balance unparalleled elsewhere did. Furthermore, since the motor mount of the S series can move the motor position back and forth, it is possible to respond precisely to severe road conditions by fine adjustment of the weight balance.

E vs S Traction balance due to differences in chassis configuration

The configuration of the main chassis is also one of the big differences between the two series. First of all it is the E series of double deck chassis which is common in touring cars, but while maintaining the torsional rigidity of the main chassis supple to a certain extent, by installing the upper deck, the pitching rigidity is raised. Even in a low-center-of-gravity chassis configuration, it is a great merit that mobility performance and traction can be obtained by tightly transferring weighted movement forward and backward. Furthermore, in addition to changing the rigidity due to the material of the main chassis, as the upper deck can also be changed, the combination increases, making it easier to choose the chassis stiffness balance according to individual driving style.

On the other hand, the S series has a single deck structure without an upper deck. Although the pitching rigidity of the rear side is improved with the battery plate, the vicinity of the steering servo is connected only around the front with only the main chassis and the side plate. As I mentioned earlier, the high mount motors of the S series produce aggressive rolls, but in fact they also generate great forces in the front and rear direction during acceleration and deceleration, so when combined with a double deck chassis with high pitching rigidity, There are disadvantages such as steering response becoming too high. Therefore, YD – 2 S dare to deduce the abrupt load transfer to the front by daring to be a single deck, finishing the operation feeling of the steering slightly mild. By optimizing the balance of roll and pitching with a hybrid structure with the side plate and further combining with the number of screws of the side plate and the optional graphite reinforcement bar, the variation of the rigidity balance is expanded.

Battery installed

The E series comes with two types of battery holders, including NiCd and Ni-MH batteries, standard lithium polymer batteries, rectangular lithium polymer batteries, from standard size to short size, for all common 1 / 10th RC battery batteries It corresponds.

The S series pursues the balance of the chassis and has dedicated it to a rectangular lithium polymer battery of short size. Although it will be able to restrict the battery, matching with a high mount motor is good because it is finished with sharp characteristics compared with the roll and pitching movement when a long battery is installed.

Suspension arm

The newly released YD – 2 E / E PLUS is equipped with a newly designed short front suspension arm. In the YD – 2 series so far, the steering stopper was applied to the tip of the suspension arm to regulate the cutting angle, but in the YD – 2 E / E PLUS, the suspension arm is brought into contact with the joint at the tip due to the shortening of the suspension arm It is now possible to secure enough break angle at any tread setting position. In addition, the LS rear suspension arm which is easy to secure the rear stroke is also standard equipment for these two models, setting which makes use of the down stroke is also possible.

Although the YD – 2 S series is a conventional rear suspension arm, the S – series originally has a shape that does not regulate the down stroke because the setting that regulates the rear stroke is not required for the low grip road surface. Therefore, even with conventional arms, it is possible to secure enough down stroke.

Change in running characteristics due to differences in chassis material

Both the E series and the S series have machines for plastic chassis and graphite chassis. Apart from the series differences as mentioned above, there is also a tendency for the difference in running characteristics due to the material of the main chassis.

First of all, the resin mold chassis used in the most basic YD – 2 E / YD – 2 S of both series. It is supple material compared with graphite material, because material price is relatively inexpensive, it is a material often used for low price machines. However, it is not a bad driving characteristic because it is cheap, and in some cases it can be said that it is higher performance than graphite material. Because the chassis itself is supple, it is easy to grasp the road surface, and it shows a high stability feeling even in a low grip situation. RC drift is a chassis made of material that is suitable for drifting because it uses a hard tire to easily pick up fine asperities on the road surface and absorbs the vibration. We will also distribute the weight of heavy loads on the chassis appropriately, so even if the setting of the suspension is somewhat worse it will show stable running characteristics, so it is also recommended for beginners with little know-how.

The graphite material, the so-called carbon chassis, is attractive due to the high response of the rigidity. Since it responds exactly even when changing settings, it is very attractive for expert drivers with know-how. Even when driving at speed, there is no chattering yore, and even dynamic driving makes me feel the limit height. Although it may be felt that the allowable range of setting is somewhat narrower compared with resin chassis, it can be said that it is a chassis easy to set up in a sense because it makes it easy to feel the difference. And above all, the luxurious feeling of graphite material is an important point that meets owner’s desire to possess before the driving characteristic. The high-grade matte graphite material used in the YD-2 series is high-performance, and finishes the look of the machine to a high sense, it creates an atmosphere that imagines high-level running.

YD-2 EX with extensive aluminum parts

The E-series top end machine YD – 2 EX is attractive with abundantly equipped optional parts. Front and rear shock tower, front bulkhead, steering bell crank, rear brace, rear brace support, front and rear suspension mount, SLF big bore shock, servo mount and much more parts are made of aluminum, bevel edge treatment is applied to black alumite It is a profound feeling of fullness in the designed design. Of course the main chassis and upper deck also have a matt finish that matches both repulsion and suppleness Graphite’s narrow type, the contrast with aluminum parts is a beautiful finish.

YD-2 SX equipped with newly designed parts and improved fighting power

Although YD – 2 SX also uses plenty of aluminum parts, we are introducing new design parts that further enhance fighting power. First of all, aluminum split type steering system. By dividing the center link it is possible to move the tie rod attachment position and it is easier to set the Ackermann ratio according to the tread width. Of course, the setting width of Ackermann ratio also spreads widely, it is possible to set it more precisely than before so it became easier to set it to your favorite characteristics. Furthermore, the standard can set the motor position of 3 stages, whereas the SX using the special motor mount can select the position of 7 stages. Although the swing widths in the front and rear are the same, fine adjustment is possible by changing the position finely.

Although it is a YD-2 series that tends to suffer from chase selection due to many variations, it is possible to find the best machine by clarifying its own driving conditions and driving style. Please try to find the best machine for you.

This is a direct YOKOMO TRANSLATION

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Yokomo YD-2SX RWD 1/10 PREMIUM RC Drift Car Kit (LAYDOWN TRANS HIGH MOTOR) [Yokomo] DP-YD2SX

Yokomo YD-2S PLUS RWD 1/10 Competition RC Drift Car Kit (LAYDOWN TRANS HIGH MOTOR) [Yokomo] DP-YD2S-PL

Yokomo YD-2S RWD 1/10 Competition RC Drift Car Kit (LAYDOWN TRANS HIGH MOTOR) [Yokomo] DP-YD2S

Yokomo YD-2E RWD 1/10 Competition RC Drift Car Kit [Yokomo] DP-YD2E

 

 

 

Yokomo Releases Another YD2-EX (Ver 2) – YD2-EXII – [Yokomo News] 3/12/18

The time has come for another YD2 Variation! This new YD2-EXII is similar to the original EX, except it comes with the new steering upgrade(Variable Steering Rack). Also, the EX2 comes with the aluminum front AND rear shock towers! The original one didn’t come with both. Those who are collecting YD2’s will love to add another YD2 to their collection.

(Yokomo News)

Achieved 2 times of the victory at D1-10 World Championship in Netherland

High-end RWD chassis kit YD-2EX has enhanced its performance at low traction surface and will be released as YD-2EXII in the end of this month.

Performing high speed drifting in any type of surface condition. In meantime, Team Yokomo developed and tested Front steering block and Front/Rear Short Lower Arm in several type of surface track for the super set of YD-2E series.  Now, those new parts will be a kit standard at YD-2EXII

Another benefit of YD-2EXII is the low friction shock and mat graphite main chassis which enable to use any type of batteries released for 1/10 scale RC cars in variety position.

YD-2EX is the high-end, good balanced configured car kit for variety of the drivers in any type of surface condition.

 

New designed Short Lower Arm and Steering Block for YD-2 E series could perform more steering angle and wider tread!

More optimize Ackerman ratio will drive you to be more aggressive drifting performer

 

New designed Short type Rear Lower Arm offer the incredible traction performance.

Even at very low traction surface, the driver can easily perform a big drift angle since the driver could feel the car always under controlling by his throttle.

All size of battery for NiCad, NiMH and LiPo are possible to install on YD-2E series car kit are possible to mount on.

(2 type of battery holder, Standard and Shot, will be standard bundled )

 

Yokomo YD-2 or MST RMX – Which One Is Better?

Yokomo YD-2 or MST RMX 2.0s? How many times a day does this question get asked? Too many is the answer. There are as many opinions on this as there are people asking the question. People have their reasons for preferring one over the other, and some are misinformed and just keep spreading what one person may or may not have said or meant. I’m lucky to be in a position where I can try different chassis and different upgrades easily, so I want to share a some of my insight.

(All images will be of either the YD-2SX or the RMX 2.0s)

Yokomo YD-2:
A couple years back Yokomo shocked the R/C world when it released the YD-2. Before then, Yokomo was only offering 4WD chassis and RWD Conversion Kits for them. We can all agree they were ok, but less than ideal. The YD-2 came as a basic kit, plastic fantastic, but it was a sub $200 chassis already set up for RWD. Out of the box it was noticeably faster than most other RWD chassis out there. They went to a rear Gearbox design which looked very familiar to all of us who do, or have done off-road buggy. There has been a very loyal following for this chassis.

MST (MaxSpeedTechnology) RMX 2.0s:
About a year ago MST released their answer to the YD-2 with their RMX 2.0s. There was a previous chassis called the RMX which was belt drive and not very closely related to the RMX 2.0s. For this write up I will only be talking about the RMX 2.0s, so I will refer to is as the RMX from this point forward. About 3 months before the release of the RMX, there was a lot of buzz about it. Mainly about how the steering would be superior to the YD-2 and would drive well right out of the box with factory settings. When the time came, the rumors were correct. The RMX had great steering right out of the box and drove really well.  MST went with a rear gearbox as well. The RMX seemed to have a slight speed advantage over the YD-2. This chassis has gained a huge fanbase quickly due to the fact it drives so well with no upgrades. As long as it’s built according to the instructions, it performs very well.

Out of the gate, the YD-2 beat the RMX to the latest style of chassis. I personally did not care for the steering setup that came on the YD-2, but the rest of the car seemed to work really well. I did not want to go to an after-market steering system to make it work better, so I moved on. The RMX worked really well and their steering system seemed to agree with my driving and tuning style more. In addition, MST built into the design, the ability to mount the motor in the high position (Weight-shift). Moving the motor above the gearbox immediately changed the handling characteristics and transformed it to a real winner on low traction surfaces. Sometime after the release of the YD-2, aftermarket high-mount motor plates for the YD-2 started showing up all over, as well as aftermarket steering kits. These 2 additions really closed the gap between these two.

Fast Forward to today.
Yokomo has introduced a good amount of revisions for the YD-2 line. For some this is a negative, others see it as a positive. If you purchased the original YD-2, the YD-2 Plus, YD-2 EX, YD-2S, YD-2S Plus, YD-2E, YD-E Plus, and the YD-2 SX have all been released since then. The YD-2 through YD-2 EX were based on the same design, the EX being the big daddy at about 80% of the upgrades available from Yokomo being included in the kit. The YD-2S introduced the lowered gearbox and high mount motor for low-traction surfaces. The YD2S Plus is the upgraded version of the YD-2S. This year Yokomo introduced the YD-2E to replace the YD-2 and is now coming with a new and improved steering system. The YD-2E Plus is the upgraded version, and the new YD-2SX is the upgraded version with both the new steering system and the high-mount motor. You got that? Of course you do.

MST always does things their way, which is to release something that works well and they continue to build on it. They released the RMX and also the RRX (Rear Mounted Motor) which is basically the RMX with the Rear Motor Conversion included. MST continues to release upgrades for the RMX, all of which are top quality and some of the nicest parts I have seen in R/C.

Upgrades Upgrades Upgrades!!!
Of course we all want upgrades, right? Of course plastic is fantastic, but it’s not as pleasing to the eye. Plus who wants to roll around on their stock hubcaps on their real car? That’s what it’s like rolling the plastic. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing exciting either.

Yokomo produces some really nice upgrades. There is also plenty of companies who make after-market parts as well. Some are good, some are not, so you need to choose wisely. I usually give the manufacturer first shot since they are the ones who designed the chassis. As you can see, Yokomo produces some really nice pieces. I really appreciate their attention to detail.

MST also produces some really nice pieces. In my opinion, some of the nicest. What MST lacks in after-market support, they make up with their own parts. Notice the detail on the shock tower with the markings and slide adjustment. MST also offers the shock towers in matching carbon with the standard hole adjustments.

Yokomo Updated and Upgraded Steering. I have to say I really like this new setup. I will be the first to say I did not like the first round YD-2 steering, but the new steering really agrees with my tuning and driving style. Props to Yokomo for making this change!

MST released an upgraded version of their original plastic steering setup. It has agreed with my driving and tuning from day one. I was glad to see they made it nicer, added more adjustment, but kept it the same. I’ve always  been a firm believer in having the steering system ridged and with as little slop possible. MST has nailed it!

Yokomo YD-2SX!

MST RMX 2.0s!

Both look menacing!

Yokomo – 7 Positions (All High Mount)
MST – 4 Positions (1 Low, 3 High)

Yokomo just introduced their new style Adjustable Toe Blocks. These are my favorite style this side of what D-Like uses on the Re-R. Offset inserts make for quick and precise adjustments. Much better than buying separate Toe Blocks for each adjustment.

MST released their Adjustable Toe Blocks almost at the same time as the RMX. I was glad since Toe is such an important tool.

The Conclusion:
I am only touching on the similarities and differences between the 2 offerings by these top-notch companies. We have had a lot of people come to our shop so confused by the strong opinions from both sides. In the end, it closely parallels with the iOS vs Android battle. Each side has it’s pros and cons. You will have people who really love one over the other,  and hate one over the other for various reasons. You will also find there is a good majority that fall somewhere in the middle and will go with what they like at the time.

Some of the key arguments I hear:
Yokomo has a lot more after-market support, nobody makes anything for MST. 
Partially true – Although there are more companies who produce after-market parts for Yokomo, there are many products which are universal and will work for both. Suspension arms, knuckles, shocks, springs, servo mounts, hubs, wheels, body mounts, etc. Not to mention any custom work can use whatever your imagination can think of.

MST does a lot of research and development, Yokomo just keeps pushing out products and they don’t work well. That’s why you need the after-market support.
Partially true – MST parts tend to work well on the first release, however, Yokomo releases different options, some work better than others, but as long as you can get what works for you, you’re fine.

Presently I have a fully upgraded MST RMX 2.0s and the new Yokomo YD-2SX. They drive very close and I imagine with time they will be even closer. If I had to choose, I would have to flip a coin. The RMX at the moment is slightly easier to drive, meaning more forgiving, but I have had a lot more time with it. At the entry level kit I feel the RMX has a slight edge since the instructions get you a better running chassis. Both seem to be about equal after that.

My personal opinion is, you can’t go wrong with either. So which ever you choose, buy with confidence! We sell both at Super-G and carry the full line of upgrades for both as well. So this is as unbiased as it gets.  Hope this cleared up some questions and concerns some of you may have. See you guys at the track!

Rememeber, keep drifting fun and leave the drama at home!

 

Yokomo releases adjustable King Pin Angle RWD Knuckles for YD2 6/19/17

You can PREORDER yours here today:

http://supergdrift.com/store/product/yd2-rwd-knuckles-with-adjustable-king-pin-angle-yokomo-y2-415sa-preorder/

Yokomo announces a new YD2 RWD knuckle! Similar to the MST one’s already on the market!


Variable kingpin angle which incorporates more variations in YD-2 steering characteristics
It is a tearing block. The base of the steering block and the upper arm attachment part are divided,
Change the kingpin angle according to the amount of spacer sandwiched, take characteristics of the A arm suspension
Make it alive, it is an item that brings about the same camber change as the actual car during steering steering. one
In general, in the case of drift driving, the tire outside the corner is a positive camber and the inner tire is a negative
Although this camber change, that is, the change of the area of ​​the contact surface and the contact pressure changes,
It will be possible to change the grip feel and response of the front.

Since the main body of the product is made of aluminum of black alumite subjected to bevel edge treatment, it is compared with a genuine resin made
The rigidity and precision will be enhanced if it is sticky. Further increase in weight increases the sense of grounding, so the front trace fee
The ring also changed. By installing an optional weight set, you can acquire the characteristics you like
to come.
In addition, an option for variable kingpin steering block that is released at the same time, an aluminum stopper
It regulates the turning angle and prevents the reverse joint of the steering tie rod. At full rudder angle set screw
There is less catching on suspension operation than regulation in, bringing a stable running. 4 mm / 5 mm and thick
With different options, you can choose according to usage and machine settings.


It is a variable kingpin angle steering block which incorporates more variations in the steering characteristics of YD-2. The base of the steering block and the upper arm attachment part are divided, and the kingpin angle is changed according to the amount of the spacer that grips. It is an item that brings about the camber change similar to the actual car at the time of steering steering by making good use of the characteristics of the A arm suspension.

There will be accessories that you can purchase as well:

 

 

2017 RawFew Team Chassis

For 2017, the Super-G Team, the RawFew has chosen a new chassis!

What and Why
Until now the RawFew have had good luck running all different chassis as a team, but it was clear the members of the team running the same chassis were also very much in sync with each other when it came to holding close proximity, matching speed and angle, and having like transitions. So as a team, the RawFew decided to find a chassis which we all felt would take us to the next level, or at least provide the best platform to accomplish what we are after as a team.

It has been obvious to us for awhile now that the next generation chassis are here. The Yokomo YD2 and the MST RMX 2.0S are both prime examples of this. They both have gone to a rear mounted motor configuration, as well as a gearbox style drivetrain. This configuration with the motor rotation in the correct orientation seem to provide a new level of traction and acceleration while maintaining a very low overall weight.

Being as the YD2 has been out the longest, it was a serious contender, but my personal experience with it had drawn me away from this particular chassis. For some reason, the front end just does not agree with me. There are so many out there who say they love the way the stock YD2 drives, but it just does not work for what I’m looking for. Many say when it’s holding angle it looks as if it’s CS, and I have to agree with this. I gave both the base model YD2 as well as the YD2 EX an honest try, (made it my personal chassis for a good amount of time) and it just did not win me over.

Enter the Wrap-Up Next VX Concept for the YD2:

From the beginning I have always been a huge WrapUp Next (WUN) Fan. This also seemed to be the case with all the teammates in the RawFew. Earlier this year, we were lucky enough to welcome Takayuki Sone (Sone-chi) to the Super-G Family. He spent a good amount of time with us and after seeing our driving style and learning what we were after, Sone-chi had given the recommendation of the WrapUp Next VX Concept for the YD2. He had assured me the VX Dock front end would address my concerns with the YD2 front end. In reality, the WrapUp Next VX Concept for the YD2 only uses the rear end from the YD2. If you fully upgrade, it only uses the gearbox. SIGN ME UP!!!


The heart of the VX Concept Chassis is the Wrap-Up Next VX Dock.
This is a unique design which has always had my attention. Rather than having the steering servo mounted separately from the steering rack and tying it all together with various linkages, levers, ball joints, etc. all which add a small amount of play at each and every joint. WrapUp Next has made the VX Dock all one unit, directly actuating the rack with the servo horn itself. This provides a very tight, slop free steering setup. I was a bit skeptical at first since I had seen a few people who did not have them working properly, but as with everything, setup plays a major role. Now having owned one myself, I am completely sold on this setup.

I decided to go with a Yokomo BL-LHV Zero Servo to compliment the WrapUp Next VX Dock. 0.06 sec/60 and 529 oz of torque sounded too good to pass up. This servo is a beast and is more than up to the task. We also chose to use the WrapUp Next Dual Composite Shock Towers for the front and rear. These have an innovative design using an aluminum center mount and some really thick carbon outers (we’re talking 4mm thick!) to provide mounting for the actual shocks. There are 3 different height positions to choose from, as well as 9 different shock mounts giving 27 different mounting positions for the front, and 11 different shock mounting points on the rear, giving 33 on the rear.

To hold true to form, we also chose the WrapUp Next KONDO Custom Ver. 2 Upper Control Arms, and KONDO Custom Ver. 3 Lower Control Arms, as well as the WrapUp Next GX Ver. 3 Front Knuckles. This ensures everything works well with each other. WrapUp Next definitely delivers in this area. This front end configuration just simply works. I’m usually one to constantly adjust and tune, always looking for that “perfect” setup, not with this one. For some reason, the changes I have made feel different, but just as good as the one before. The WrapUp Next VX Dock is really a work of art.

The Chassis Kit from WrapUp Next is quite impressive. Top quality with a unique carbon weave. It has a lot of mounting options for those of you who like to experiment with different placement for your battery and electronics. It comes with all the necessary brackets and stand-offs, and it all goes together the way any high-end chassis kit does. For reasons unknown, we decided to run with the stock YD2 Rear Suspension setup. I plan to upgrade to the WrapUn Next VX Ver. 3 Lower Rear Suspension Arms in the immediate future, but for now the stock YD2 suspension is doing it’s job and doing it well. The VX Concept Chassis uses the gearbox from the YD2. I have chosen a Yokomo D1 Spec 10.5 Motor to power my personal build.

When it came to shocks, we considered all the various shocks we have used throughout the years. Tamiya TRFs were a strong contender, but once we tried the Yokomo Big Bores, the choice was easy. These have quickly become my favorite shocks. The simplicity of the design, with top notch quality, it’s a no brainer. These things are buttery smooth.

Of course we were obligated to run the WrapUp Next Rear Brace / Fan mount.

And the killer Yokomo Racing Performer Cooling Fan.

The WrapUp Next VX Concept for the YD2 is a definite winner! We feel Takayuki Sone (Sone-chi) hit it perfectly with his recommendation for this chassis. The VX Dock and front end setup addresses the area on the stock YD2 I didn’t care for, but still utilizes the great gearbox and rear end that the YD2 does right. This has to be the best handling chassis I have owned to date. Combine that with the awesome build quality WrapUp Next is known for, and you have yourself a work of art you just want to stare at, but don’t be fooled, you will be itching to drive it every chance you get.

Steve Fujita:
WrapUp Next VX Concept for YD2 Black
Servo –
Yokomo BL-LHV Zero
ESC / Motor –
Speedpassion Reventon Pro / Yokomo Racing Performer D1 Series 10.5T
Gyro –  D-Like Premium V.2

Joe Tam:
WrapUp Next VX Concept for YD2 Red
Servo –
Yokomo BL-LHV Zero
ESC / Motor –
Speedpassion Reventon Pro / G-Force Hyper Booster Capacitor / Yokomo Racing Performer D1 Series 10.5T
Gyro – D-Like Premium V.2

Jason Fordyce:
WrapUp Next VX Concept for YD2 Black
Servo 
– Futaba BLS571SV
ESC / Motor – Accuvance Xarvis /Accutron Photonic Stabilizer /  Electrinic Stabilizer / Chevalier Turbo Capacitor / Accuvance Luxon Agile 10.5T
Gyro – D-Like V.3

Nick Lepisto:
WrapUp Next VX Concept for YD2 Black
Servo – 
D-Like RWD Servo
ESC / Motor – Accuvance Tachyon Airia / Accuvance Luxon 10.5T
Gyro – D-Like Premium V.3

Mark Santa Cruz:
WrapUp Next VX Concept for YD2 Silver
Servo – Futaba BLS571SV
ESC / Motor -Speedpassion Reventon R / Speedpassion 3.0 10.5T
Gyro – D-Like Premium V.3

MST’s Latest Offering – RMX 2.0S


MST (Max Speed Technology) has just released it’s latest RC Drift Chassis, The RMX 2.0S!

Here at Super-G, we happened to get the first shipment to the U.S., so of course we got right down to business.

Initially I had considered doing a Yokomo YD2 / MST RMX 2.0 comparison since that seems to be the talk on the streets, but I feel to be completely fair to both sides, I need to spend time with them and get them to the point I feel I their strong and weak points have revealed themselves. This can’t happen in less than 24 hours.

I would like to start off by stating I do not feel the RMX 2.0 has “copied” the YD2 as so many are claiming. If I had to really break it down, it seems both chassis have borrowed technology which has been present in the 2WD Off-Road Buggy scene for some time. Both are offering this style layout, both with different approaches. So the statement of so and so copied seems to be a bit of a stretch in my opinion.


If you are familiar with MST’s kits, you will find yourself right at home with the RMX 2.0. Everything is packaged as you would expect and the bags of parts follow right along with their instructions. I feel their plastic has been improved from the previous models. I have always felt their plastic was a little too soft, but I did not get that impression from this kit.

The front end has their new style steering which works very well right out of the box. If you use their specs, you will have a really good starting point. So far everyone who has tried it box stock really likes it. MST has chosen to mount their steering wipers to the bulkhead  instead of directly to the chassis. Not my preference, but it works.


MST has chosen to use inserts to set the UCA mounting points. Each one has 3 positions, but by rotating them, you can open up an additional 3 more, effectively giving you 6 mounting options with the stock inserts. Definitely a welcome addition to anyone who loves tuning.


The steering gives plenty of angle and the front knuckles have built-in steering stops to prevent the wheel from “Flopping” over. I believe they come stock with 6 deg KPI. The UCAs use the standard spacers to give caster adjustment. I was happy to see MST provided full turnbuckles instead of the solid links provided in the FXX-D kits. Yes, more room for error, but with the option to really dial in your tune. For those who don’t care to tune much, just follow the lengths they specify in the instructions and you’ll be good to go.

The RMX 2.0S comes with a sealed gearbox. Rather than to go with the standard “Stealth Transmission” inline style, they have chosen to use bevel gears to transfer the power to the wheels. This allowed MST to use their standard rear diff unit. I was pleased to see they provided a ball diff standard.

When building the gearbox, you are given to the option to flip the motor plate around and mount the motor up high in the weight-shift position. A very cool option In addition, you are also given the option to mount the servo perpendicular or parallel to the center-line of the chassis. So depending on your preference, MST has you covered.


The shocks that come with this kit are amazingly nice for a kit in this price range. I believe they are an extra for the first run of the RMX 2.0 Kits. Whatever it is, they are definitely the nicest shocks I have ever received in a kit in the $200 range. They come with 15 weight Mineral Oil which seems to work well on this chassis.


Overall, this is definitely a solid chassis in the entry-level price range. I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to recommend this for a beginner to expert. We all know MST will come out with their full line of hop-ups for this model, fully tested and working well as always. Many chassis require some setup to start getting around the track,  and even more before you start having fun. Not the case with the RMX 2.0S. This is seriously some good fun right out of the box.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.